[Kralon]

I got a 120GB drive. I backed up my 20GB using an XPORT Docking Station. I migrated the information from my 20GB to my 120GB. Now I cannot play XBOX original games on my 360 anymore. It says that I have to re-download the games even though the disk is in the drive. I restored my 20GB drive using the XPORT since during migration the 20GB is deleted. When I reinstall the 20GB I can play XBOX originals again. Anyone come across this problem and have a fix? Fortunately it seems that all of my saved games made the transfer and I still have my original 20GB drive in it's pre-migration condition.

[FantasyBarb130]

Are you sure it is not th eemulation software it wants you to download?

[Kralon]

Yeah, um, after going through the web sites suggestion of downloading the update and burning it to disk and reinstalling it, I also got the code for doing the hard drive maintenance. After running through this I got the email reply from XBOX.com suggesting that I do this all again. I then called xbox support and ran through these same procedures before being transfered to someone else to do this all again. After the 3rd person and doing the same thing for the 4 the time they and spending an hour on the phone they then referred me to the xbox originals backward compatibility web site to make sure that my disk were indeed backward compatible. I then lost it. I told them that I was totally unhappy with this issue and after going through the same crap 4 times I got no resolution to the issue. I told them that I wanted to file a complaint because I believe the issue is related to the new dashboard update and their new service of being able to download xbox originals, but was told to just go to the XBOX.com website and fill out the feedback.

[Metallicorphan is an Ass]

whats the game?

[Homebuilt PC]

Are we talking about the Games you DL from marketplace for about 1200 points?

[Metallicorphan is an Ass]

Homebuilt PC, on Aug 11 2008, 10:15 PM, said:

Are we talking about the Games you DL from marketplace for about 1200 points?

thats what i thought at first,but then he said he had the disc in

is your 360 not connected to the internet Kralon?...it usually downloads the emulation software when you try playing a BC game,if it is indeed the disc

IF it is a 'xbox original' (which is what MS calls them)downloaded from the marketplace for 1200..i am wondering if its one of those problems with not being able to play the game without being connected online...like some Arcade games you get...you cant play them offline,i forgot what it is that its called

[Homebuilt PC]

OK, this seems like the old DRM issue all over again.

Here's an example.

First time you played SWBF, you DL'd the update (emulator sotware) and played it. And all was good in the world. What happened that you didn't see, was that software you DL'd had a foursome with your GamerTag and your Hard Drive and Xbox Serial Number. By the Laws created by Microsoft, the four of them had to get married.

Now you've taken away the hard drive and have dissolved the marriage. Divorce. And we all know what happens then. Nothing F'n works. The Serial Number won't cook diner anymore, your GamerTag just sits around all day and watches Jerry Springer, and the damn software is always tryin to make you watch the kids.

And to make matters worse, you bring a new Hard Drive into the home. Well, now you've done it buddy. GamerTag and Serial Number won't even look at you. The sotware.... the software is being a real bitch. All she does is sit there now. Taking up space, and using all your money, err, I mean resources.

Well, shit. Everyone was getting along great till software showed up. You know what you gotta do, man. Take her out. And I'm not talkin dinner and a movie. Hire a hit man if you need to, but DELETE that sotware!

Now GamerTag and Serial Number can come to terms with the new Hard Drive, and will renew thier friendship.

What you say? You still want to play that game? Well, don't go bringing that software into this house again. Not unless you want GamerTag to go apeshit on your ass. You'll hafta call the PO-lice and everything.

What you need is a friend. A third party. Someone to vouch for software. Have another GamerTag come over to visit. Then have that GamerTag DL software. Once they are re-introduced using the other GamerTag, everyone will have another foursome, but this time it will be with the visiting GamerTag, yours still has issues to resolve. But at least everything will work again.

At least untill you 360 fries, then you get to go through this again.

Moral of the Story: Just use your damn XBOX 180 to play old games.



Since Tier is a total nerd and may not understand complex social interactions (beyond "You want me to stick it WHERE?!?"), I have included a translation that he may understand. Using the biggest and most complicated words I can think of.

Tiers Translation:

DELETE the malfunctioning content from your SATA 120GB Fixed Disc Drive, using the provided System utility included in the current version of the Microsoft XBOX 360 dashboard 'System Blade'. This should take approximately 20 milliseconds for each 50 killobytes of data as the Fixed Disc Drive has a rotational spped of 5400 R.P.M. and a average transfer rate of 1.2 Gigabytes per second (1000 milliseconds as everyone should know).
Next you will need to sign in to your Microsoft XBOX 360 using a GamerTag other than the one that originally downloaded the downloadable content and download the downloadable content with it. You cannot simply change the name of the original GamerTag, it must be a completely different GamerTag.

[wnchstr96]

Homebuilt PC, on Aug 12 2008, 01:31 PM, said:

OK, this seems like the old DRM issue all over again.

Here's an example.

First time you played SWBF, you DL'd the update (emulator sotware) and played it. And all was good in the world. What happened that you didn't see, was that software you DL'd had a foursome with your GamerTag and your Hard Drive and Xbox Serial Number. By the Laws created by Microsoft, the four of them had to get married.

Now you've taken away the hard drive and have dissolved the marriage. Divorce. And we all know what happens then. Nothing F'n works. The Serial Number won't cook diner anymore, your GamerTag just sits around all day and watches Jerry Springer, and the damn software is always tryin to make you watch the kids.

And to make matters worse, you bring a new Hard Drive into the home. Well, now you've done it buddy. GamerTag and Serial Number won't even look at you. The sotware.... the software is being a real bitch. All she does is sit there now. Taking up space, and using all your money, err, I mean resources.

Well, shit. Everyone was getting along great till software showed up. You know what you gotta do, man. Take her out. And I'm not talkin dinner and a movie. Hire a hit man if you need to, but DELETE that sotware!

Now GamerTag and Serial Number can come to terms with the new Hard Drive, and will renew thier friendship.

What you say? You still want to play that game? Well, don't go bringing that software into this house again. Not unless you want GamerTag to go apeshit on your ass. You'll hafta call the PO-lice and everything.

What you need is a friend. A third party. Someone to vouch for software. Have another GamerTag come over to visit. Then have that GamerTag DL software. Once they are re-introduced using the other GamerTag, everyone will have another foursome, but this time it will be with the visiting GamerTag, yours still has issues to resolve. But at least everything will work again.

At least untill you 360 fries, then you get to go through this again.

Moral of the Story: Just use your damn XBOX 180 to play old games.
Since Tier is a total nerd and may not understand complex social interactions (beyond "You want me to stick it WHERE?!?"), I have included a translation that he may understand. Using the biggest and most complicated words I can think of.

Tiers Translation:

DELETE the malfunctioning content from your SATA 120GB Fixed Disc Drive, using the provided System utility included in the current version of the Microsoft XBOX 360 dashboard 'System Blade'. This should take approximately 20 milliseconds for each 50 killobytes of data as the Fixed Disc Drive has a rotational spped of 5400 R.P.M. and a average transfer rate of 1.2 Gigabytes per second (1000 milliseconds as everyone should know).
Next you will need to sign in to your Microsoft XBOX 360 using a GamerTag other than the one that originally downloaded the downloadable content and download the downloadable content with it. You cannot simply change the name of the original GamerTag, it must be a completely different GamerTag.

That my friend is some FUNNY SHIT!!!! Nice job! hahahahaha

[Tier is a Blind Mofo]

LOL, oh man, that had me busting up!! That totally made my day.

[Kralon]

Well, thanks, you were all as helpful as Microsoft. Rather than admit that their new hard drive could be faulty they wasted a lot of my time and patience. The hard drive has bad sectors that are in the area allocated to the xbox originals save location. The only way I found out was that I have a Datel XPORT device and was able to test the drive using additional diagnostic software that I already had. Thank god for the Datel XPORT, I was able to back up my 20GB before the transfer and restore the drive after the migration otherwise I would have lost everything. Also, I was able to restore the $400,000 in funds that I had in Texas hold'em that I had lost. Bonus. Still have to wait for a replacement drive though.

[Homebuilt PC]

Wow. I just re-read what I posted yesterday. What the hell was I on? And where can I get more?!?

[pvt busdriver]

Dr Homebuilt PC, on Aug 13 2008, 11:31 AM, said:

Wow. I just re-read what I posted yesterday. What the hell was I on? And where can I get more?!?

ROFLMAO... yes, i was thinking it was not you typing that too :) I had a good laugh ... I did the same thing Kralon and had probs with my Elite and the transfer, I ended up buying some of the games and losing some bcs I didn't hav the patience to sit there and try and work on the 'relationships'. haha sometimes the guys on the other side of Tech support just suck, I had to buy SWBF maps again

[Metallicorphan is an Ass]

as i said in another post recently,i think i ended up paying of the star wars battlefront maps about 5-6 times on the 360..everytime i put the game in it asked me to redownload the maps again,me,not knowing that i was being recharged

my mum,whose credit card i use as i dont have one....wasnt very pleased at all,when £4.99(or £3.99)went out 5-6 times in 5-6 days..thankfully,i think they solved the problem,by making the map pack free

i never did enquire about the money i lost,i just paid it over to my mother like a good boy i am

[wnchstr96]

Metallic Endorphins, on Aug 14 2008, 11:38 AM, said:

.thankfully,i think they solved the problem,by making the map pack free

Well just a couple of weeks ago I had to pay $4.99 AGAIN for the SWBF2 maps. Apparently when I got my replacement 360 my downloaded maps were corupt or something. My dumbass should of just plugged up the old xbox, but I was being lazy and besides it's only about a gallon of gas hahahaha.

[SkinToxicated76]

ah, so does this mean that if i put SWBF2 into my new 360 (this is the replacment i bought back in march, my dad now has my repaired one), even though I am still using the original HDD, it will still throw its toys out the pram as it serial number on the console is now different form then i downloaded the maps?

I have seen poeple write into magazines about this, they said you need to transfer the licences from your old console to you new one (there must be some kinda Cache memory on the console, a marriage certificate of sorts )

This site here from Xbox.com gives you instructions to transfer the licences

This makes me think, will the Arcade games i downloaded prior to my console change, play on my new console as i dont think i played any of my old XBLA games since the change?

[PatrickH 1993]

a little off topic but homebuilt that was fuckin gteat.

[Metallicorphan is an Ass]

skin- i swear the xbox360 i got back April just gone (RRoD)...was not my original 360,as that WAS a launch machine,but the one i got back has a manufactory date of 05-07-2006...i actually bought it in December 2005(the 12th to be exact),so they must of swapped it,and all my arcade games work fine


maybe thats the reason why my 360 came back within the same week...well chuffed i was



also,thinking back it had all the clear stickers over the disc tray,like when you buy new products

[SkinToxicated76]

I think Mobeye said a similar thing when he sent his back that he didnt get the same one back, wouldnt surprise me of they have like a "rolling stock" of 360s so they send you a repaired one and your one goes to someone else when that gets repaired. I think my one was the one i sent as it had a scuff on the shoulder and its still there. you have to register your console with Xbox b4 sending, but again it wouldnt suprise me if the serial tab thing can just be popped off and clipped to another.

I have gone back to my older Arcade games and they have played no problems on the new console i bought (with the old HDD attached)

[FantasyBarb130]

I think they are now automatically transferring licences to repaired 360's. So you shouldn't have any problems. Also I think the whole licensing thing only applies to products created for the 360 so the SWBF maps probably don't have the same rules

[Homebuilt PC]

FantasyBarb130, on Aug 18 2008, 10:28 AM, said:

I think they are now automatically transferring licences to repaired 360's. So you shouldn't have any problems. Also I think the whole licensing thing only applies to products created for the 360 so the SWBF maps probably don't have the same rules

I've been meaning to try the data migration thing to see if it works on the SWBF2 maps, but haven't got around to it. I just know that as soon as I do, my new 360 will croak.

If you have to buy them again, you should be able to call customer support and get them to refund the $4.99.