[SkinToxicated76]

ok, as you may/maynot know I am running a wireless setup, router and modem downstairs, 360 and my pc upstairs. I have my router set with the port forwarding and enable the DMZ on my 360 IP address. Thing is, the IP address on my 360 keeps changing. some times its 192.168.1.100 another time will turn it on and it might be .103, so i have to go into my router and apply the port forwarding and DMZ to this different IP address (it aint a major to do, but something i would like to avoid)

is the router assigning IPs as wireless equipment is turned on? EG the 1st wireless machine will be assigned .101 the 2nd will get .102 etc. Is there anything i can do? we do have a Nintendo Wii downstairs and that is connected to the network wirelessly as well

[FantasyBarb130]

Usually there is a setting on the router that assigns a range of ip addresses. On mine its 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.100.
Those are the addresses the router assigns. what you do then is tell the 360 to use and address outside that range like 192.168.1.200. Then the router won't change it. You have to change your setting on the xbox so that it is not automatically picking up your settings

If this isn't specific enough let me know. I was trying to avoid getting too techy

[Pogue on Nokia]

yeah manually assign the ip address on the xbox

[SkinToxicated76]

righty-ho guys, so just change the IP in my 360 to (for example) 192.168.1.200

so it doesnt matter what IP address I use on my 360, it will still connect to my wireless network regardless, as long as the 360 has the WEP key to access it?

Then on my router, apply the port forwarding and the DMZ settings to the new IP i have given my 360 (192.168.1.200)

wow that sounds really technical but I understand it, how cool/nerdy am I

[Pogue on Nokia]

you might have to manually assign the gateway settings as well

[Metallicorphan is an Ass]

shit me,remind me never to go wireless or have a router

[Warlord Poon]

would that work for me as well? right now ive got a modem downstairs connected to a router connected to 2 computers and sending wifi to my laptop, and upstairs ive got another modem directly connected to my 360. but while one modems plugged into the phone jack i cant have the other plugged in, meaning while im on the 360 i have to unplug the modem downstairs not letting anyone else use the internet, and i cant go on live while people are on the computers downstairs. verizon says we should be able to but never explained how and i hate calling tech support for verizon or linksys because if i remember right verizon uses india too now, cant understand them to save my life

[SkinToxicated76]

Pogue on Nokia, on Jul 18 2008, 03:34 PM, said:

you might have to manually assign the gateway settings as well

what is that? is that the 255.255.255 thing?

I think i will write all these numbers down b4 i start messing around with things, wireless is one of those things that once i got it working, it just leave it well alone..wish me luck

[wnchstr96]

This is why you should keep you xbox HARD WIRED. hahahahaha (besides it's usally faster that way)

[SkinToxicated76]

wnchstr96, on Jul 19 2008, 03:14 AM, said:

This is why you should keep you xbox HARD WIRED. hahahahaha (besides it's usally faster that way)

I know what you mean, but sometimes it just isnt practical. i have never noticed a drop in speed with wireless, I am usally the last one to get lag even when i playing with you guys on the other side of the planet.
As long as you have your router set so that anything coming to/from the 360's IP bypasses the firewall (DMZ) you will be fine. another reason i have to all these funny settings is so i can chat other guys who may not be as techo savvy and unknowningly have restrictions on their setup, plus its cool to know

I did the manual setup, but realized i had to manually assign EVERYTHING, i will have a bit more of a nose around today, it goes tits up i will jsut got baxck to Auto setup and just have to look on my router and apply the DMZ and port forwarding to what ever IP my router assigns my 360

I remember when i found the wonderful world of "port forwarding" on BF2 with all the chat option and being unable to get into games

[SkinToxicated76]

I Am Poon, on Jul 18 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

would that work for me as well? right now ive got a modem downstairs connected to a router connected to 2 computers and sending wifi to my laptop, and upstairs ive got another modem directly connected to my 360. but while one modems plugged into the phone jack i cant have the other plugged in, meaning while im on the 360 i have to unplug the modem downstairs not letting anyone else use the internet, and i cant go on live while people are on the computers downstairs. verizon says we should be able to but never explained how and i hate calling tech support for verizon or linksys because if i remember right verizon uses india too now, cant understand them to save my life

Pat, i think i have got me head round what you are explaining. sound similar to what we have...i think.

so you have to unplug the modem from the phone socket (and therefore the computers) and plug in the wireless router into the phone socket so you can game, am i right so far?

what i do is have the modem into the phone socket, then plug that into the wireless router, the router should have a couple of ethernet outputs on it, use those to connect your PCs (so your PCs are connected to the modem but via the router) and the router gives you your wireless access for you to game and laptop

phone socket to Modem, Modem to the Router, Router to the 2PCs (wired), laptop and 360 connected wirelessly to the router.

also consantly plugging and unplugging stuff from modems and routers should be avioded as you are gonna increase the changes of something breaking

[PatrickH 1993]

SkinToxicated76, on Jul 19 2008, 03:36 AM, said:

Pat, i think i have got me head round what you are explaining. sound similar to what we have...i think.

Umm no idea, I am Poon said that. If his name is Pat then things will get very confusing around here.

[wnchstr96]

Hey Skin, I may have misunderstood that whole thing, but I do believe that Pat wants you to do something with the head of his poon. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA what? I can't be funny?

[Warlord Poon]

thats how its set up for everything else but the 360, i dont have a wireless adaptor for that and really dont want to spend the money, would rather have a hardline for a strong connection as mine isnt great anyway, what i want is to have the modem upstairs(wall to modem to 360) plugged in while the modem downstairs is plugged in as well (wall to modem to router to 3 computers, 1 is wireless) which for some reason wont work
but maybe ill try the wireless adapter and if i dont like should be easy to find a buddy of mine willing to buy it off me

[Warlord Poon]

well i remember this one video where the guy got the poon around his head... oops theres chilluns here

dont worry my name aint pat, its harrison if you prefer that over poon, the ladies do, well most of them

[PatrickH 1993]

wnchstr96, on Jul 19 2008, 05:48 PM, said:

Hey Skin, I may have misunderstood that whole thing, but I do believe that Pat wants you to do something with the head of his poon. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA what? I can't be funny?

Wnchstr strikes again. Good thing i havent seen jammer in a while

[Tier is a Blind Mofo]

Hey Skin, with wireless you really want to let your router give out the IP addresses. Whenever a new device accesses your wireless access point, the router hands out a different IP address (which is the reason you get different IP addresses on your 360). IF you really want to have a "static" IP then you have to set it up on your 360 as well as on your router. Here's the catch though; some router manufacturers don't have firmware that will let you tweak your WiFi IP addresses. Therefore if you want to manage your WiFi IP addresses you will need to get a 3rd party firmware (one I love is Tomato). Most new routers though allow you to tweak all your connections, wired or wireless.

Poon, the reason you can't have 2 modems connected to 1 connection at the same time is because only one MAC address of the modems can be connected to your ISP at one time. The logical way, as Skin mentioned, is to have a single modem connected to a single router and connecting everything to that router. The time you can have 2 modems connected is when you have 2 services from your ISP (meaning one MAC address per ISP subscription). Of course that is a waste of money unless you are a heavy downloader and online gamer.

[SkinToxicated76]

Tier is a Blind Mofo, on Jul 21 2008, 01:31 AM, said:

Hey Skin, with wireless you really want to let your router give out the IP addresses. Whenever a new device accesses your wireless access point, the router hands out a different IP address (which is the reason you get different IP addresses on your 360). IF you really want to have a "static" IP then you have to set it up on your 360 as well as on your router. Here's the catch though; some router manufacturers don't have firmware that will let you tweak your WiFi IP addresses. Therefore if you want to manage your WiFi IP addresses you will need to get a 3rd party firmware (one I love is Tomato). Most new routers though allow you to tweak all your connections, wired or wireless.

thanx Tier, I got it all sorted, all it did was use all the settings the Auto setup listed and just entered them in manually but with a different IP address (.201) then applied the DMZ and the port forwarding to that IP. turned off then turned on the Router and bingo, the IP stays the same not need to go into the router and NAT setting are open

Poon, i know you said funds are a bit tight but you really need a gaming adapter to solve your problem. dont bother with the 360 one, granted they clip on the back, powered by USB, and its all neat and tidy but they just aint worth the dough


I use one of these


they dont look that good and they do take up another plug socket but it does the job.